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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.01 21:04:00 -
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4 high powered slots? Really? Heavies are hard to deal with as they are now. Especially when you have heavy squads loading up in a LAV and hopping out and wiping out entire objectives. None of the suits has the same amount of slots in them so why should the heavy be different? You're trying to make a heavy 1v1 a tank cqc?
I do agree that they should bring the price down of a heavy suit. It really shouldn't be $240K ISK. I agree it should be higher because a good heavy infantry player won't (or shouldn't die as much) but not considerably. I'd say $95K-$100K ISK is reasonable for a proto heavy suit. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.02 22:49:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:4 high powered slots? Really? Heavies are hard to deal with as they are now. Especially when you have heavy squads loading up in a LAV and hopping out and wiping out entire objectives. None of the suits has the same amount of slots in them so why should the heavy be different? You're trying to make a heavy 1v1 a tank cqc?
I do agree that they should bring the price down of a heavy suit. It really shouldn't be $240K ISK. I agree it should be higher because a good heavy infantry player won't (or shouldn't die as much) but not considerably. I'd say $95K-$100K ISK is reasonable for a proto heavy suit. tbh heavies are a joke proto ARs rip them apart and lolLAVs thats what happens when ppl dont use AV nades or have any swarms There is no incentive for a heavy to upgrade to the higher tier suits past type-II and with the HP nerf (which was a good nerf) across the board the only advantage suits have now is more fitting slots and more cpu/pg but heavies dont really get that benefit at all so while others get a significant upgrade moving to higher tier gear thus making killin **** easier the heavies dont and this become easier to kill when u upgrade ur gear a proto logi and assault tbh can get prob more EHP from their suits than a heavy can, needs more slots
I don't have a problem with heavies. I, usually don't start matches with proto gear. But if I get killed by a heavy, then that problem is solved when I gear up. The LAVs wouldn't be a problem once you skill into advanced packed av grenades because standard packed doesn't work since they beef up their LAVs to withstand a grenade.
But what is the goal here? To have to have 2 people take a heavy down? If that is the ideal, then fine. But we shouldn't make all suits comparable to each other. Meaning, there's a reason logis have more cpus and slots. And scouts so fast, etc. There's pros and cons to each. And that's what makes the configuration awesome. The heavy proto is too expensive, so i'd agree with a reduction. But 4 high powered slots just because the assault has 4 just sounds like envy.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.03 00:37:00 -
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immortal ironhide wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:4 high powered slots? Really? Heavies are hard to deal with as they are now. Especially when you have heavy squads loading up in a LAV and hopping out and wiping out entire objectives. None of the suits has the same amount of slots in them so why should the heavy be different? You're trying to make a heavy 1v1 a tank cqc?
I do agree that they should bring the price down of a heavy suit. It really shouldn't be $240K ISK. I agree it should be higher because a good heavy infantry player won't (or shouldn't die as much) but not considerably. I'd say $95K-$100K ISK is reasonable for a proto heavy suit. tbh heavies are a joke proto ARs rip them apart and lolLAVs thats what happens when ppl dont use AV nades or have any swarms There is no incentive for a heavy to upgrade to the higher tier suits past type-II and with the HP nerf (which was a good nerf) across the board the only advantage suits have now is more fitting slots and more cpu/pg but heavies dont really get that benefit at all so while others get a significant upgrade moving to higher tier gear thus making killin **** easier the heavies dont and this become easier to kill when u upgrade ur gear a proto logi and assault tbh can get prob more EHP from their suits than a heavy can, needs more slots I don't have a problem with heavies. I, usually don't start matches with proto gear. But if I get killed by a heavy, then that problem is solved when I gear up. The LAVs wouldn't be a problem once you skill into advanced packed av grenades because standard packed doesn't work since they beef up their LAVs to withstand a grenade. But what is the goal here? To have to have 2 people take a heavy down? If that is the ideal, then fine. But we shouldn't make all suits comparable to each other. Meaning, there's a reason logis have more cpus and slots. And scouts so fast, etc. There's pros and cons to each. And that's what makes the configuration awesome. The heavy proto is too expensive, so i'd agree with a reduction. But 4 high powered slots just because the assault has 4 just sounds like envy. and just what is the pro to a heavy suit? being able to survive a few more rounds? being able to carry a heavy weapon?
The pro is having close to or 1000hp in total health and that insane HMG. I've foolishly tried to "rope 'a' dope" a heavy with the HMG. I thought I was successful because he couldn't hit me until I've realized he doesn't run out of bullets lol.
CQC, a heavy will take down any assault guy..proto or otherwise. Given that it is a competent heavy, of course. I've seen heavies decimate players at an objective. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.03 00:53:00 -
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After thinking it over, I've revisited my position though. It is only fair to give an extra slot for protos. So, if the advanced has 3 then the heavy should have either an extra high powered or extra low powered slot. I'm just imagining proto heavies being ridiculously hard to take down if they stack shields.
But if they give that extra slot then the price needs to be higher than an assault's. $246K is still high but something around $150K is reasonable.
Edit: opinion subject to change after careful review of all dropsuits in all classes and how they differ in levels and each other |
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